This week we look at who should be a better pick in 2008, Chase Utley or Jimmy Rollins
Rob McQuown–In real baseball? I don’t think it’s even close. Utley is so far ahead of other second-basemen offensively, that it’s not even funny. The “gold glove” for Rollins doesn’t make him elite on defense… he’s good, but so is Utley, and Rollins’ lack of on-base percentage makes him a lot less useful on offense than he appears.
In roto, however, it’s not even close, too… but in the other direction! Roto is all about playing time, first of all, and Rollins’ durability, lack of walks and leadoff role make for huge at-bat totals. Add to that the absurdly high value of stolen bases in Rotisserie, and Rollins looks even better.
While you have to be careful to pick up RBI from other sources, and while Rollins will almost certainly regress significantly in 2008, he’s still the money pick over Utley. I do think that the smaller the league, the less the “gap” between them, since a lot of Rollins’ value comes from his batting average over his high AB totals, and as the average BA goes up, that becomes a lot less important… and Utley’s skill set plays big in any size league.
William Johnson–I like Utley, but only slightly, and that depends on how the individual league scoring rules work. Rollins has an obvious speed advantage. If SB are at all at a premium, then his value is tremendous. Both have similar home run potential, but Utley’s multiple-category, cumulative advantage in BA, HR, and RBI (ironically, driving in Rollins), along with his clear dominance of the 2B position in terms of scarcity, give him a small edge for me. Even if both regress to the mean in the BA and HR categories in 2008, Utley should sustain his edge, and the nature of his hand injury last year is not the type of problem likely to recur this year. I’d take Utley, but be very very happy with Rollins. Tastes great, and less filling.
Mike Podhorzer–Rollins. It’s all about the steals here. I have him valued $9 more than Utley in my standard 12-team mixed league, and that’s because of the 28 steal difference I’ve projected. The small edge Utley has in the other 4 categories is more than made up for by Rollins’ SB advantage. I also slightly worry about the broken hand Utley suffered last year. When he returned, his power was down, and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him get off to a slow start in the HR department. This is something I rarely see mentioned when discussing Utley and it certainly increases his risk. Rollins should of course regress, but he’s slightly more reliable according to Baseball HQ’s reliability scores and has no ongoing injury risk, unlike Utley with the broken hand from last year. I don’t think position matters assuming you’re dealing with a league with an MI slot, since you’d bunch SS and 2B together.
Brian Joura–I’d pick Utley. He did fine once he returned last year – isolated slugging mark of .195 in September – and I see no reason for that to go down after additional healing time. Utley was better than Rollins in 2006 and would have been better in 2007 except for the injury. I think it’s unlikely that Rollins comes close to repeating his MVP season in which he established career highs in 11 offensive categories and tied in another. Finally, there are more quality shortstops than second basemen in fantasy, further tilting things in Utley’s favor.
Andrew Cleary–I’ll add my voice to the Rollins/steals chorus. Rollins’ 20+ projected steals advantage on Utley more than makes up for the 15 or so projected RBI advantage Utley has. While you can pick up players to shore up a steals deficit on your team, I usually find that such players come with their own deficits in just about every other batting category. Rollins gives you steals, which are hard to find in large quantities, and does so with superior batting numbers (relative to most other speedsters)–except for his average, which is at least league-average. There’s not much chance Rollins will hit 30 home runs again like he did last season, but Utley seems a likelier candidate to regress with his 2007 .362 BABIP, as opposed to Rollins’ .300. If the steals advantage doesn’t sway you to Rollins, Utley’s likelier candidacy for regression should at least give you pause
Brandon Heikoop–I am, like everyone else, going to have to go with Rollins. For me, it has less to do with the statistics then the position scarcity. That is, I actually anticipate Rollins to regress more so then Utley. While Rollins has a substantially lower BABIP, it is in line with his career mark despite the drastic increase in fly balls.
That said, once Reyes, Rollins and Ramirez are drafted the pool of short stops becomes so incredibly shallow, that it is tough to get value by drafting anyone at the point required to get them. That is, in a recent draft (no MI position), instead of taking Bartlett, Lugo, Greene, etc in one of the final rounds, I decided to take Schilling whom I can slot in at the DL and pick up whoever is on the waiver wire.
Conversely, with Utley, one can make the argument that a Wigginton holds similar value despite being available some 200 picks later.
And that is why my money is on Rollins.


7 responses so far ↓
1 David Rosen // Mar 25, 2008 at 12:55 pm
If you think Utley is far ahead of Phillips , Upton and even Kinsler than i will avoid this website like the plaugue… Sorry your wrong,,, Its Rollins, he can prettty much mach Utley’s production with 30+ more SB’s… Good Night
2 Patrick DiCaprio // Mar 25, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Not sure if yo uactually read the article David, but all but one person selected Rollins. That said it is far closer than you think.
Just as one example, Baseball HQ has Rollins at $36 in a 5×5 and Utley at $34.
3 Brian Joura // Mar 25, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Four typos/grammar mistakes in a four-line post - that’s pretty impressive. Now to the “substance” of your comment: Are you really putting Kinsler in the same league as Utley? I’ll take the massive edge in RBIs and BA and give you the 14 steals. I project Utley to be better than either Phillips or Upton, due mainly to more playing time for Utley, less for Phillips and a regression on BABIP for Upton. That said, you named three 2B (two in the AL) who are somewhat equal to Utley. With Rollins at SS, we have Ramirez, Reyes, Jeter, Tulowitzki, Tejada, Young, Hardy and Furcal (6 in the NL). Finally, if you don’t like what I say, that’s fine but then you are focusing on the overwhelming minority opinion in this roundtable. If you are going to give up on a Web site due to a minority opinion, that’s an incredibly stupid thing to do. I suggest bookmarking this page and when the season is over, leave a comment about how right or wrong you turned out to be on this issue.
Happy Baseball - Brian
4 Dkit // Mar 25, 2008 at 7:02 pm
The only thing I read that makes little sense is from Podhorzor who mentions Utley breaking his hand last year. Of course his power is going to go down as soon as he comes back because he did not have time to strengthen his arm back up. But I think that last years injury has absolutely nothing to do with this season’s performance. It does not increase his risk because it isn’t an injury that you can reinjure. It was a freak occurance that can only happen again if somebody hits him with a ball, which would be as statistically probable for Utley as it is for every other batter. So while it makes sense that his power went down as soon as he returned it would be a non-factor in 2008, unless in the offseason Utley sat on his couch and didn’t do anything to strengthen his arm. Which knowing his playing style is highly unlikely.
5 Mike Podhorzer // Mar 26, 2008 at 2:05 am
Hey dkit, after being called out, I figured I’d defend myself. Utley’s broken hand was actually something discussed by Rick Wilton at the First Pitch Forum. Derek Carty, who also attended, summed up his thoughts nicely in one of his posts on THT:
“As always, Rick Wilton was a font of injury information. Perhaps the most interesting things I learned were the details behind hand and wrist injuries. Last July, Rick wrote about Chase Utley in a post for THT. If you’ll remember, this was right after Utley suffered a fractured right hand. Rick wrote that “even if he does beat the four weeks, Utley has another hurdle to overcome. Players coming off wrist and hand injuries rarely regain their normal power levels for up to a year after the injury.”
Yesterday, Rick outlined an exact timetable for these types of guys. He said that it generally takes eight to nine months for a hitter to regain 80 percent of his power and 10 or 12 months to regain 100 percent. This has some important fantasy implications for several players in 2008.
Chase Utley
Let’s start with Utley. The eight-month mark was Feb. 27, and he’ll be past nine months by the time the season starts. Because Utley will be just 80 percent to start the season, I’ll mostly be passing on Utley in favor of more reliable hitters in the first round of my drafts. Because of this limitation, all it will take is a little bad luck for Utley to have a poor first-half. If he does, the 12-month mark is at the end of July, which makes Utley a potentially excellent trade target for the second-half.”
So no, I don’t make things up, but since I’m not a doctor, I rely on injury analysts I respect such as Rick for information like this. Especially a nugget that no one else is thinking about that will give you an edge.
6 Dkit // Mar 26, 2008 at 3:03 am
Podhorzer, I didn’t think you made anything up. I just didn’t agree with your analysis and thought it was based more on opinion. So I’ll concede you had some good basis for the argument based off what Wilton said. All said and done, I like the round table type stuff, keep up the good work.
7 Brian Joura // Mar 26, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I’m interested in hearing the argument that Ty Wigginton holds “similar value” to Chase Utley.
Happy Baseball - Brian
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