Some more thoughts on the concept of value.
In response to my last column, the most frequent question I have been asked is whether I am merely saying that we cannot judge whether we have gotten value at the time of the auction. Yes I am saying that, but on a deeper level what I am saying is that the basic paradigm by which players are obtained is flawed especially at the top of the auction pyramid where players are not fungible.
At the top of the auction pyramid where the top talent lies the concept of value has to basically go out the window in keeper leagues where inflation is often rampant. If you are hoping to get a Jose Reyes or Jimmy Rollins type player for under $30 so that they have value then you have little chance of getting the top talent necessary to win in tough leagues.
Anyone who has been in an auction has experienced this common scenario: you have a guy projected at $20. Bidding starts and reaches $20. You drop out and someone gets him for $24. That player goes on to produce a $35 season. Every year there are a few of these guys. Often owners who don’t think about such things consider that the successfully bidding owner was just lucky. Perhaps he was but perhaps he knows a lot more than he is given credit for. Evaluation of your adversary is always to be considered.
Question: (and I apologize for channeling Dwight Schrute for a second) why did you drop out of the bidding? Invariably the answer is that the player wasn’t a good value at that price. Most times that may be true and in the long run it will be true; namely if I take a group of 100 players all of whom are valued at $20 and pay $24 I will probably show a loss, assuming my projections are good.
But every so often you feel like you have inside information or see something that others do not. Often this might be using a regression to the mean approach for BABIP or hit rate or some other solid information that you have. In this regard you may be a “learned minority.” I have discussed at length my trade of Stephen Drew or the fact that two expert owners went head-to-head in a bidding war for Tom Gorzelanny this year, with the other owners denouncing them as crazy (and these two owners finished one-two this year).
Every year there are a whole host of such players that I target at the auction, maybe 5-7 each year. Every year I invariably get almost all of them. Why? Because value is not the proper way to acquire players in every instance and I am willing to go beyond it for these players when other owners are not. I am happy to acquire players I love and feel like I have great info on if they go for anywhere close to my projections.
A few examples aside from Gorzelanny: two years ago I acquired Brian McCann in my high stakes league for $12. I had him projected at $10, and would have gone to $15 (he produced $25). Last year I had Jake Peavy projected at $23. I bought him for $30. I also had Jimmy Rollins at $30 and got him for $33. I got James Shields at $9 but would have gone to at least $13 for him. All outproduced their projections and my purchase price. If I considered value for these guys I would have gotten none of them.
As Wittgenstein might have said if he played fantasy baseball, value is just a symbol. Our goal is not to maximize value but to maximize production and statistics. Value is a shorthand symbolic way to maximize your teams production but it is no substitute for actual evaluation of points to be gained and statistics to be accrued and dollars to be earned.
I am not saying that you should not chase value. What I am saying is that the pursuit of value is a mirage that can cloud your view of the overall goal to be achieved, the maximizing of production. My personal view is that a “go get them” approach with regard to the players you really want will often do better than a value based approach, especially if you are particularly astute and have excellent judgment about players. This advice is not license to go overboard however! We are talking here about non-fungible players at or near the top of the auction pyramid.
The fact is that a value based approach is correct when you are dealing with fungible commodities. But at the top where the big money is spent you will usually do better to target specific players that you desire if (and that is a big if) you really do see aspects of that player that others in your league do not. That means not only must you consider your own values but you must consider what your opponents know and what they will do with that knowledge.
One final anecdote that is somewhat reflective of the same principle: in my days as a horseplayer, I found a particular public handicapper who was very astute at picking longshots. I considered him to be a “learned minority.” What I would do is look for situations where he picked a horse to win that no other public handicapper even put in the top three. This yielded tremendous profits. It was a good lesson in thinking outside the box and in realizing that sometimes you must act on knowledge that you have that others don’t regardless of other factors.

4 responses so far ↓
1 Sky // Jan 8, 2008 at 10:06 pm
In keeper leagues, a player’s inflated value is his actual value at the auction. You need to be willing to pay it.
If your inside information/hunch says Player X will be worth $15 even though others think he’ll be worth $10, his value is $15. You’re not overpaying if you expect him to earn $15.
There are definitely reasons not to let value rule your auction — you need to acquire a certain stat, you’ve already bought a few studs and want to keep some money for the $10 players, going after the last of a certain category of player, etc. But generally you should decide how much a player will be worth and pay that much.
Here’s another one that happens a lot, even in re-draft auctions: The top guys will often go for a few bucks more than value. You can’t just lay off these guys, because you’ll end up spending all your money on $15 players in order to not leave money on the table. Buying all $15 players leaves very few roster slots for the $1 to $5 gambles and in-season free agent acquisitions.
2 High Stakes Commish // Jan 28, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Two caveats…
First of all, most people don’t get scarcity right. Keeper leagues have inflation because by definition, keeper rosters are priced below market value, do that exces savings is utilized to pay above market value prices. Everyone looks for a bargain, but those with better keeper rosters go into an auction looking to pay above market value to fill needs. Look at the teams with the best keeper rosters, and their needs. They are most likely to overpay for that void. The second element of inflation occurs for compelely differnt reasons…people who wait too long. There are always those who hold onto units too long, only to realize it too late, and overbid for every starter available as they try to field a competitive team from scraps.
Last season I used a new tool for assessing scarcity premium, and it worked shockingly well. It was based on the concept of INCREMENTAL standings points, combined with position scarciity. This varies from league to league, so there is no absolute rule, but when I ran the #s, I was shocked at some of the valuations for players, but many of those were comparable in the actual auction.
I’ll utilize statistics like BA Allowed, BHIP, etc, to assess whther the market has priced a player right, but the trick is assessing the infllation/scarcity/adjusted value correctly, so you can figure if you passed on the 20 player properly. Factor adjusted, 24 might have been the right price, and I see a lot of teams pulling back from those purchases, then having to overspend for mediocre talent within their budget…ie…you pass on Jimmy Rollins because he goes for 33 when you thought 30 was right, and you end up paying 17 to get a 12 dollar Jason Bartlett. Proper factoring would hae proved Rollins to be the better bargain.
3 High Stakes Commish // Jan 29, 2008 at 12:04 am
More thoughts on ISP
Case in point…you have two players at you have pegged at $17 - let’s call them Aaron Rowland and Eric Gagne. because of scarcity, Rowland will run 20 and Gagne will cost you 24. Who is the better buy?
It’s a function of the team you currently have, but not so much your position scarcity - it’s how many INCREMENTAL standings points that person adds, adn the cost of those adds:
Let’s assume the incremental effect of Rowland would be to add 1 standings point in runs, 2 in HR, 1 in SB and cost you 1 in AVG, so a net of 4 points.
Let’s assume the incremental addition of Gagne is 4 points in Saves, and 2 each in ERA and WHIP, so a net of +8 point.
Let’s say outfielders are scarce and the approx cost of the next guy is 5 dollars per standings point. That’s a $20 price you’d be willing to pay, so Rowland is actuallly inline.
Gagne, on the other hand, comes from closers, where the cost per standing point is in the $4 range (cheaper to buy a closer sstandings point). Nonetheless, at a projected cost of $32 for the incremental standings points, Gagne is clearly thhe better buy, despite appearing to be more out of line with projected 5×5 value.
Most teams never take this into account.
4 Patrick DiCaprio // Jan 29, 2008 at 1:31 am
Jeff/High Stakes Commish:
BaseballHQ last year did something similar, analyzing players by SGP or standings points gained. It was very interesting, and is a much better thing to look at at the top of the auction than “value.”
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